Industrial automation leaders, engineers, and technology managers will find this episode with Phil Seboa, Ed Fuentes, and guest Max Carrit both informative and practical. The discussion focuses on hands-on lessons gained from SCADA implementations, the cultural differences in controls engineering between the US and Europe, and the shift toward advanced technology and DevOps practices in automation, all relevant for those seeking to build effective, modern industrial systems.

Early Lessons in SCADA and “Learning by Fire Hose”

Max Carrit points out that real progress in automation often starts with direct, hands-on work. He shares how his entry into controls engineering involved summer internships at gas processing plants, where immersion in large-scale projects led to rapid learning—and the occasional sense of overwhelm. “The learning by fire hose method is pretty good,” Max Carrit reflects. Spending 12-to-14-hour days on site, he experienced technology, jargon, and team dynamics that textbooks can’t provide. The episode illustrates how real-world exposure accelerates understanding, especially in high-stakes environments like oil and gas, and how sticking with a project through its lifecycle is what “makes it successful.” For companies hiring or developing talent, fostering these immersive experiences pays dividends—early-career engineers quickly build confidence and practical skill, which translates to smoother project execution.

U.S. versus Europe: Culture and Collaboration in Controls Engineering

A central theme for the episode’s audience is understanding how regional cultures shape career paths, team interaction, and expectations in automation. When Max Carrit moved from the US to Europe, two key differences stood out. First, U.S. engineers “fall into” controls work with less formal structure, often learning on the job, while in Europe, controls engineering follows a defined educational track, typically Siemens-based. Second, he noticed greater collaboration in European environments, saying, “I do wish deep down that US controls engineering would actually move away from this, do-it-by-yourself and fight through it on your own to… let’s all learn from each other, let’s do code reviews, let’s create a common structure.” These insights are vital for hiring managers, team leads, and integrators working internationally or looking to build effective, resilient teams. A structured, collaborative approach can lead to faster problem-solving, fewer errors, and higher overall satisfaction among engineers.

Embracing Modern Tools and DevOps in Industrial Systems

For today’s automation professionals, managing complex systems means adopting new tools and ways of working. Max Carrit highlights the move to platforms like Ignition for SCADA, favoring flexibility, rapid deployment, and scriptability—qualities he found were lacking in legacy solutions. He’s enthusiastic about the spread of DevOps-style practices (like source control with Git, containerization, and automating repetitive tasks), particularly as industrial architectures become more complex and data-driven. At industry events, Max Carrit notes, “There was a lot of talk about [enterprise-scale DevOps], but when asked, few are actually using Git for Ignition.” This gap shows an opportunity for forward-thinking organizations: those who structure their projects with modern IT principles will see benefits in scalability, maintainability, and rapid development, staying ahead as digital and automation technologies continue to advance.

Key Quote From The Episode

“I think that maybe we should start considering that we need to start training people to sit in the space between IT and OT.” — Max Carrit

Key Takeaways

[00:02:20-00:05:10] Real-world, immersive project work builds practical engineering skills quickly; “learning by fire hose” accelerates development.

[00:15:47-00:18:17] The biggest difference between the U.S. and Europe is the defined, formal track for controls engineers in Europe versus a more ad hoc approach in the U.S.; Europe also favors more collaboration.

[00:35:46-00:38:09] As automation systems grow, the need for IT-OT “middle ground” engineers and adoption of DevOps practices (Git, containerization) is growing, but is not yet widespread.

Wrap Up

Today’s industrial automation landscape rewards practical, hands-on learning, structured collaboration, and the willingness to bring in modern development tools and practices. By exposing engineers early to real projects, building clear and collaborative teams, and adopting IT-inspired workflows, organizations lay the groundwork for more effective, scalable, and resilient systems. Those looking to improve their automation outcomes should support on-the-ground learning, facilitate knowledge-sharing and code review, and prioritize DevOps adoption—with a sharp eye on both tech potential and user needs.

Actionable suggestions:

• Provide early-career engineers with immersive site experiences.
• Develop internal structures for code review and collaboration.
• Start piloting DevOps tools (Git, containerization) in automation projects to future-proof your operations.

About the Guest

Max Carrit is an automation and SCADA specialist with a decade of hands-on experience across industries and countries. After starting in the U.S. integrating SCADA and controls systems, he moved to Europe, where he consults as a freelancer focused on Ignition SCADA, DevOps, and advanced industrial software practices. He is known for practical tutorials and content that help engineers worldwide adopt new tools and methods.

Connect with Max on LinkedIn:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/maxcarritt/